Lineage2 Divine is no more
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
Voci ~ none of that was aimed at you for staying the course. I was talking about the failed leadership that allowed Divine to stretch to th point of disownership. I already said I take responsibility for helping with that, but keep in mind I left close to 3 years ago.
In an attempt to keep this nonflammatory, I will not respond to Karigan at this time.
In an attempt to keep this nonflammatory, I will not respond to Karigan at this time.
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
KittyIce wrote:aerily wrote:KittyIce wrote:One question, who are u to put LII legion clan in the tomb ?
Sin is the leader of Divine as a whole; if anyone has the authority to make that call it would be him.
Thanks for the good times guys! hope to see you in Aion
I don't reconize any autority of this man on LII - legion.
Only the LII-legion clan leader can decide to end the clan.
So far the LII-legion clan leader is still Karigan and not him.
Oh Btw thank you very mutch to send the clan in tomb from a public place when some ppl try to work hard to rise up again.
Very very nice from you
Kitty Sin is the best leader i have ever known and what he decides goes for his ownb reasons..
I hope that all you L2 Divine members stay in Divine and come into diffrent games with us
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
I would just like to say that i will miss seeing the L2 people on vent - i have been a member of Divine for a few years now and I would just like to say that it was always col to see u guys donw there grinding away
I would also like to invite any of you that want to try a new game to try out Darkfall Online NA Server (if u r located in the americas - or anywhere for that matter and want to give it a try) . Darkfall is a PVP oriented game where if you die, u loose all ur stuff... The good part is that one of your buddies can pick it up, u can remake it, or u can kill someone else and get better gear
We have a city that we are gathering resources to finish building, are part of a large alliance that controls all holdings on one of the sub-continents in game, and are looking to achieve great things. We would welcome any dedicated players from Divine who want to come. We are called Divine Legion there.
I would also like to invite any of you that want to try a new game to try out Darkfall Online NA Server (if u r located in the americas - or anywhere for that matter and want to give it a try) . Darkfall is a PVP oriented game where if you die, u loose all ur stuff... The good part is that one of your buddies can pick it up, u can remake it, or u can kill someone else and get better gear
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
Andothe wrote:Let me start with the bad since I want to finish on a good note.
I have watched this ally decline for years in its policy handling and "adaptation." I have spoken a few times here and on the officials because I still truly care and am quite disappointed that this chapter of divine has come to a close due to its recent handlings of "those who stayed the course." Changing with the times is what got Divine where it is now, a joke of a name where the clans in game don't even have the divine name in them...at all. There is nothing in the Divine creed that ever allowed for cheating to get ahead, and shame on all of you that had a part in allowing that to occur to be able to pvp with the "in" crowd.
That being said, I would like to next take full responsibility for this occuring. I should have stayed and helped mold with the changes rather than bailing when I thought the corruption was so deep I couldnt fight my way through it. There was no strength in my decision to leave what we had going. I keep thinking, if I had stayed, would elfis still be here, would chris still be here, would my other friends that I had so much respect for here be around. Truth is, I don't know.
The loss of people like bamela and others who were so clan oriented that it hurt to not be like them I believe is what affected my decision the most. But on to the good stuff. I really miss the people we had back then, dureal, xtan(i think), alz, elfis, krow, kobay, bamela, yamaguchi, winter, narem pre crusaders employment, fg's crew pre crusaders employment, mad, nya, flecke, panpan, silvy, ani4ka(yes u), mawar pre whatever that pp woman was that pealed him into wow, sinister(of course), sciblade, shandathe, fortuna, mawata...the list could go on and on. We really had some quality people. You all as well as the others slipping my memory have such a profound impact on the folks around you. Remember that as you push into new games.
oh wow... i didnt expect u to name me.... well in all honesty i never really stopped liking u, i just felt betrayed when u left (u were the one that invite me to divine, im grateful for that!) and it really hurt me a lot when i saw YOU bad mouthing divine and saying how we are going downhill and all, i still believe divine did a hack of a job staying where it was for so long being a legit clan (yes we never had any1 bot in clan and if we did we kicked him) anyways
Good times... I wish u all the best ivy, u were a good leader it was a pleasure playing with u.
STRENGTH AND HONOR
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NoName - Lineage II
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
Karigan wrote:As for Divine and Lineage II. The clan name is Legion. The ally was named Divine. There is not an alliance anymore. Both my members and myself have felt nothing but animosity from certain moderators and members on this forum in recent months. Thus, we will remove ourselves from these forums and the Divine name will not be used by us again.
Just so everyone knows...this wasn't my decision. This was the decision of Karigan. This was the threat that was made, and I acted on it.
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
It was the decision of all members of Legion in Lineage II, not just myself. We were already working on new forums before Belnor even posted. We haven't sported the D for a week, and have not used Divine ventrilo for nearly a month. We had hoped to leave more quietly but the last few days have made that a moot point.
Karigan
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
The decisions have been made and need not be discussed further in technicallity.
In my opinion...
It is unanimous between Sinister, Karigan, myself, and I'm sure any other leader & founder that if the L2 branch wishes to take on another form, then that is what they must do.
A clan needs to be true to itself...
Some of yall's posts bring back so much! There are still great times to be had in the future. Like I said, hope to see ya' around!
In my opinion...
It is unanimous between Sinister, Karigan, myself, and I'm sure any other leader & founder that if the L2 branch wishes to take on another form, then that is what they must do.
A clan needs to be true to itself...
Some of yall's posts bring back so much! There are still great times to be had in the future. Like I said, hope to see ya' around!
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
Good show, and howdy and howdo to all that remember me.
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
Karigan, I do want to thank you for all you have done along with everyone else there in L2. Especially, with the ever changing issues of Lineaeg2 and the adversity that you need to deal with. I think it's best to say that this was a mutual feeling due to current events that this transition was made. I personally have no hard feelings and I hope that you understand that. Hopefully, down the road we will meet again friend or foe with mutual respect for one another.
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Agreed. Divine will always be remembered both by myself and the Lineage 2 community. Thanks again for the use of the website and vent as well as creating and maintaining what Divine is. Best of luck to everyone here.
Karigan
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
Sad to see Divine leaving L2. That is where I started my online gaming and being in Divine was a treat. I tried to come back to L2 but wasn't given the time of day so I packed it up after getting to 76 again. Tried for weeks to get a clan invite but no one seemed to care. After seeing how this turned out it was probably for the best. Anyways, no use crying over spilled milk, what's done is done.
That said.
Nice to see all the names again and that there is still a few of the old crowd around that leveled on those damn harits in FoM. Will never forget those days as long as I play. Good luck to you all in Aion, I am playing with my guild Halcyon Affinity(http://halcyonaffinity.org/) on Vaziel under the name Tinuva, so I wont see you guys there but I'll be with you in spirit.
That said.
Nice to see all the names again and that there is still a few of the old crowd around that leveled on those damn harits in FoM. Will never forget those days as long as I play. Good luck to you all in Aion, I am playing with my guild Halcyon Affinity(http://halcyonaffinity.org/) on Vaziel under the name Tinuva, so I wont see you guys there but I'll be with you in spirit.
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
I didn't want make a drama on divine forum
And i'm sorry if i offensed somone here.
despite of the dark days we got, my 8 month in divine was the most interesting.
And the story between KittyIce and divine started 2 years before i joined.
I will never forget the first time when a divine member (Muckmauss) pmed because a divine xp grp needed a bd for TOI 11, I was only a silly bd 51...
After that day, i was every night in party with divine. So LII-Legion got and will still get a special place in my hearth. So u must hunderstand that the actual situation of our LII clan make very sad.
And i'm sorry if i offensed somone here.
despite of the dark days we got, my 8 month in divine was the most interesting.
And the story between KittyIce and divine started 2 years before i joined.
I will never forget the first time when a divine member (Muckmauss) pmed because a divine xp grp needed a bd for TOI 11, I was only a silly bd 51...
After that day, i was every night in party with divine. So LII-Legion got and will still get a special place in my hearth. So u must hunderstand that the actual situation of our LII clan make very sad.
Les cons ça ose tout ! C'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît.
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
that one is nice, first u blame ppl playing L2 that they are completely against creed and don't fit to divine and immediately after it u invite them to play different game.Elindor wrote:...
I hope that all you L2 Divine members stay in Divine and come into different games with us
tbh i feel ppl i played with more divine members than anyone else on this forum. acting according second hand informations just show hypocrisy and hatred here.
wish u all good luck.
@ kittyIce: no this topic doesn't mean that divine ends. it just means ppl here doesn't want to have anything in common with clan playing L2. end of the clan as u know may come in few days tho.
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
Divine was the best online clan i ever played in will always remember divines first moments as a real clan in prelude and when we closed down cruma tower for the botters and lots more.
Was great play with all those from back then about 3 good years it was. great times and great memories.
Am already on aion have preordered it and getting euro acces on sunday gonna be great maybe we will se each other on the inside
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Was great play with all those from back then about 3 good years it was. great times and great memories.
Am already on aion have preordered it and getting euro acces on sunday gonna be great maybe we will se each other on the inside
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Re: Lineage2 Divine is no more
illu wrote:that one is nice, first u blame ppl playing L2 that they are completely against creed and don't fit to divine and immediately after it u invite them to play different game.Elindor wrote:...
I hope that all you L2 Divine members stay in Divine and come into different games with us
tbh i feel ppl i played with more divine members than anyone else on this forum. acting according second hand informations just show hypocrisy and hatred here.
wish u all good luck.
@ kittyIce: no this topic doesn't mean that divine ends. it just means ppl here doesn't want to have anything in common with clan playing L2. end of the clan as u know may come in few days tho.
Thk Illu. U decided to left legion to joined Nova. But u are the ppl in the ex-titan i appreciate the most. If one day u need my help feel free to pm me
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